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January 04, 2005
Discrimination Against Whites
According to The Times, the Lake District national park authority is to scrap guided walks by volunteer rangers because too high a proportion of participants are white. Mick Casey, a media officer for the authority, said that ‘only 35,000’ per year took part: “The majority who do the walks are white, middle-class, middle-aged people,” he said. “The Government is encouraging national parks to appeal to young people, ethnic minorities and people with disabilities.”
Can this really have been the intention of the Government? After all, if everything in which the majority of participants were white, middle-aged and middle-class were scrapped, what would be left? The tax burden is disproportionately met by white, middle-class and middle-aged people, but I doubt whether Gordon Brown wants to scrap income tax. And what if the national park authority had expressed the opposite preference? Too many of the people going on the guided walks are black, working class and old (or young); therefore the walks should be scrapped.
Discrimination is wrong when it involves prejudice. Landlords who put up signs saying ‘no blacks’ were prejudiced. That is, they failed to judge individuals on their own merits. But what’s the difference between a landlord refusing accommodation to people because they are black and a national park authority refusing to offer a service to people because they are white (not to mention middle-class and middle-aged)?
The under-representation of ethnic groups in a particular workplace or activity may be the result of prejudice. It might also be for any number of other reasons. (Perhaps members of ethnic minorities have got better things to do than go on guided walks.) The mere existence of disproportionate representation provides no proof of prejudice one way or the other. To believe otherwise is like arguing that; ‘Postboxes are red; therefore every red thing is a postbox.’
Posted by David Green at January 4, 2005 08:51 PM
Comments
I agree with this article, when it comes to race in america i think that white people are discriminated agaist just as much a blacks are. i think that they should stop complaing about there life and get up and do something.
Posted by: Katie at March 7, 2005 01:44 AM
Whites are definitely discriminated against by blacks MORE than blacks are discriminated against by whites because blacks can have all black colleges, all black channels, all black awards, and all black schools, but whites cannot have these privileges because if a white does it, it is discriminatory. Blacks need to realize that they are discriminating against whites, and quit whining for rights they already have.
Posted by: Anonymous at March 28, 2005 03:53 AM
This is one of the things that makes me most mad about our world. Whites are not the only ones who discriminate. Just watch shows such as Dave Chappel, the Fresh Prince of Bel Aire, Sister Sister, That's So Raven... these shows all portray black Americans. In Fresh Prince of Bel Aire and Sister Sister and That's So Raven they have a Black Awareness episode that recaptures a white discriminating against a black. This is not the way to go about things. Blacks complain about discrimination but they are the ones bringing it up all the time in the first place. Don't blame whites now for what our ancestors may have done. Things have changed, times have changed. Why do blacks have their own shows, awards, channels, magazines, colleges, while whites do not. Anything whites do to separate themselves is discriminatory. We should just all be together for once. Blacks need to get over the past and so will the whites. Let's all be Americans together.
Posted by: Lindsay at June 21, 2005 09:06 PM
I believe it is time for European Americans to unite and begin marching on all State Capitals and the Capital of the USA to end discrimination against People of Euro descent. Go to Fannie Mae's website and you will see discrimination firsthand! Let Euro-Ams band together for a secured future!!!
Posted by: Don at June 26, 2005 12:43 AM
I think a lot of what people say is right and I believe that AFRICAN AMERICANS are just as discriminatory against CAUCASIANS as they are against us. But for those writing comments use the right grammar when you do approach a situation as delicate as this one. Don't be so judgemental like everyone else.
Posted by: Anonymous at June 30, 2005 04:52 PM
I agree with the author of the article, especially having been told I *have* to do more to attract more 'black' people into my hobby area. How ludicrous..anyone that's literate can read the advert!
To discriminate, for or against a person because of their colour, ethnicity, religion etc., is illegal in the UK. I'm really tired of all this colour bias. Anyone would think that people's IQ is based on their skin colour... it isn't!
Another good article can be seen here..
http://www.jhu.edu/~newslett/03-26-98/Opinions/7.html
Posted by: Jan at November 1, 2005 10:24 PM
Europeans are constantly discriminated against. It is tremendously obvious in education. Whites are kept out of graduate programs and internships in order to make room for less qualified minorities.
Posted by: beendiscriminatedagainst at November 7, 2005 06:50 PM
I believe this article is saying many things other people would not have said.
African Americans attend my school. The 'blacks' of my school are even MORE racist than the 'whites'.
The people at my school, (not just Caucasians but Asians, Europeans and other respectable races) are not allowed to shop at certain stores because the African Americans have claimed these certain stores and brands as "their brands". The only other people at my school that are allowed to wear these are the hispanics. If any Asian or Caucasian went to school dressed in the ensembles the African Americans wore we would be assualted either physically or verbally, Asking us who we think we are.
I am a Caucasian, therefore, by the African Americans, I am not allowed to watch Black Entertainment Television, speak a certain way (But if i speak the way I normally do I am teased for being white.), Listen to types of music, read certain magazines, or go to certain movies. African Americans say Caucasians run the media? I beg to differ.
African Americans love to tell me how it is my fault they went under slavery in historical times. I am a high school student. I was not there for slavery. My family was not even in the Americas when this was happening. Even the discrimination after slavery is not my fault. I am partly Irish and if I am recalling times correcting we were also discriminated against. I am part aboriginal, I believe we are also discriminated against and used as slaves. It is not only the Africans. The South Africans used East Indians as slaves. Do not try to tell me the world is only against African Americans.
I am not just speaking out against African Americans but they are the biggest factor in this race issue. I, myself am not racist. I do not judge on colour and if I do not like someone that just so happens to be of another race it is their own character flaws. They bring it on themselves.
-K.H. Nova Scotia, Canada.
Posted by: KH at January 9, 2006 11:52 PM
Remember the old addage - "two wrongs don't make a right" ? ----- Well the concept of Affirmative Action is the second wrong trying to create a right. It just doesn't work. The only way to create balance and fairness between people of different race today and in the future is to treat them all the same now and in the future. There can be no consideration given to past wrongs because no one can determine what level of compensation will be just, and for exactly what groups of people should it be granted.
If you study mankind's history with an honest approach you'll find that literally every race and nationality has been discriminated against by someone at some point in time in a significant manner. If that is true -- And I believe it is and it can be proven to be true, then how can you justify recompense for one group of people but not another? You can't, it just won't work. It will simply lead to more serious problems and continued injustices over time.
Posted by: Chuck Freeman at January 22, 2006 10:36 PM
I know first hand about racism. I had an employee who is black, I am white, I had a real connection with him, I thought I was prejudiced until I met him. It was such a great feeling. Now we had to let him go because he was not doing his job. He did not like to take direction from us. Now we are currently go through court preceding because he claims that he was fired because he was black (which is also his nickname).
This couldn't be further from the truth. We hired him as a temp. He was a real good worker to start, we paid him for a full week, when he didn't work the whole week, we brought him things back from our vacation, bought lunch, etc. Why would we have hired him, if we were prejudiced. Who protects us from Blacks being prejudiced against whites. Then our lawyer says when Human rights are involved, he will get something ($$). That's just wrong. I can't afford to hire black people if all they have to do is to cry racism to get money. I have to be prejudiced because of this and that's sad.
Posted by: Anonymous at January 27, 2006 05:56 PM
i agree with the article too, i dont feel that it is right for the government to do something like that to white males. but at the same time i dont feel that its right to go on and criticize the existence of black colleges and such. the black people have suffered for decades at the hands of white americans. these black colleges, awards, channels, etc. are just a testament to how far they've come and how their people were finally able to rise up out of their oppression. government discrimination against whites isnt right, but dont bring the blacks and minortities into this. because compared to what theyve gone through, this is cake!
Posted by: eagle at March 6, 2006 08:49 PM
I have just sat a test for a job with the UK Foreign Office. At the back they asked me for my ethnicity. Excuse but what relevance did this have to the test. The test categories were maths, speed and accuracy and English, sorry but what did my race have to do with it that if black people can't do it then it would have to be made simpler for them. Why do we always to have suit blacks, if i went to live in Nigeria, a)they wouldn't let me aply for a job cos I'm white, b) they wouldn't give a toss about me being able to do it because of my skin colour. Wake up England you are going to be black before you know it then you'll really know discrimination.
Posted by: David Sweeney at April 4, 2006 09:49 AM
You probably will not put my comments on your website but it is too bad because white people cannot suggest that black people are discriminating.
Secondly, many of us do work very hard but some of us get tired of fighting white people everytime we do something. A black tv channel did not happen because someone cashed in food stamps or asked for a handout. It's because someone worked hard to learn the trade and produce quality black programming.
Noone in this forum commented on the quality of the shows but that they were black. And black is bad in their eyes.
But white shows go without white in front of them but grand discussions about the program do not cover that it's white. It's because it's done by white people and for white people. So black people don't talk about black stuff but we talk about the programming.
And Martin Luther King's speech is about REALITY and not about a DREAM. Read the first 3/4ths of the speech. He is dealing with REALITY like we all should be doing.
Posted by: Ethiopia Speaks at May 14, 2006 07:04 PM
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